Saturday, March 24, 2007

p.s. Hey. The photo evidence of the NY Userlands events is filing in, so I should be able to give you a good look at what happened on Monday. That's the plan anyway. Thanks one more time to everyone who read, hosted, and attended. The future is yours, etc. ** Link RayGun, Thanks for your patience. Yes, there've been many, many times that people who have been molested or who suffered a lot of emotional, physical, or psychological abuse when they were young have either written to me or talked to me about my work and said they felt connected to what I've written in relationship to those kinds of experiences. Honestly, those have been the most important and meaningful responses I've ever gotten to my writing both because I feel like those people have a deep understanding of what my work is trying to do, and because, especially at a certain point years ago when I was constantly being accused of glamourizing and romanticizing that kind of violence for shock value, their seeming understanding and appreciation of what I'm trying to do really helped me believe and stay on course, by which I mean continuing to write about those kinds of acts with what I hope is their full intensity and complexity, attraction and horror and damage intact. Of course there have been people with similiar experiences who've hated my work for whatever reason -- writing about those things at all, not going out of my way to have an attacking, mortalistic viewpoint on them. It's hard to say whether there've been more supporters or haters in that regard. But yes. Obviously, having gone through what you have and saying you like my work means a whole lot, and I'm really moved to hear that. I'd like to hear more about your film projects, if you don't mind, both about what your plans are for them artistically and about your thinking re. how to represent those experiences. And, yeah, just thanks a lot for now. Feel free to ask me anything you want at anytime always. Oh, and I think your new picture is really cool. ** Joseph, That Nepal story and image are really disturbing and fascinating of course. I'm glad Roussel interested you. Lautreamont actually took the words out of my mouth in recommending the Oulipo writers. They might be very up your alley. In fact, your question made me decide to a Day here about the incredible Oulipo associated writer Georges Perec, so, if nothing else, I'll post that probably next week, and you can see what you think of him and his stuff. So you seem like a very interesting guy. What do you do? Dumb question, but I mean are you a writer or ... what? Thanks. ** Lautreamont, Thanks for the Oulipo suggestion. Like I said, I'm gonna try a Perec Day, and probably a Harry Matthews Day a bit later on. So, a question. Since you're in Egypt, what do you know about contemporary Egyptian literature? I know next to nothing since so little is translated into English, and I'm very curious. ** SCHIZZ, Your input on Roussel was totally fantastic, and much, much appreciated. You know, I don't speak French, which is kind of insane since I both live in Paris and am the world's biggest Francophile, so your question about what Roussel's work becomes or doesn't in translation is a question I ask too. Of course the French people I know frequently tell me it's ridiculous that Roussel was translated at all, and say that non-French speakers can't have an accurate clue about his work, although I kind of like to think about the puzzle that translation places upon the pure puzzle of Roussel's work, not that we non-French speakers have any choice. Anyway, great thoughts on Roussel, one of the most sublimely great writers ever. Thank you so much for adding them. Brisset is writer I've longed to read forever, but I think I've only seen tiny samples of his work in translation. I know only cursory info about him, his life. Someone ... maybe Edmund White? ... once talked to me for a long time about him, but my memories didn't keep the stories. You read French to some degree, obviously. What is your take on his work? It's true about Roussel's grave, but it's such a beautiful loneliness, and the grave itself is quite weighty and memorable. ** T.pkendall, So what did you do on your big day, eh? ** Bernard Welt, Unless I'm spacing out like I did briefly on whether a Derek Jarman Day had already occurred, I don't think there's been a proper Harry Matthews Day, and I'm on it, right after Perec. 'Nest of Ninnies.' sigh, so wonderful, as, on a different note, is Schuyler's wonderful novel 'What's for Dinner?' You agree? ** David Ehrenstein, I did get your email, and that was really nice to read. I mean let's see what their regrets really mean. I can't count the magazines and places that have said that to me or my agent or someone, and then ... poof. But it's nice to read. And it's really, really nice of you to pursue that. ** Atheist, Maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like there's tons of stuff out there on male prostitution: books, online stuff, fiction, memoirs ... I feel like you'll find a wealth of material after a while. ** Dooflow, Yeah, definitely, please send me anything for the Delaney Day. I'd be hugely grateful, and that would spur it on to happening.. We can co-curate the Day, if you like. You want to? With someone as great and rangy as Delaney, two heads and two sources of input might really help. Just a thought. ** David C., Depends on what you mean by difficult. His writing itself isn't hard to read, but his work, as you could see yesterday, needs a different approach, and its forward momentum isn't propulsive in the way most fiction is. But he's so great and so important, I think, that I'd at least recommend giving something by him a try. It might not end up being something you love, but he's a writer you won't regret having tried to read. That I can guarantee. ** Chris Stamm, Taking a break from your daily routine is an excellent excuse, actually. Awesome about your band's progress. Get that European tour lined up asap. Fall Out Boy, hm. I don't know. You might be right about the meds effect. Unless I'm missing something. And I often do, need I say? Grad schools don't know shit, but I'm sorry if it hurts or fucks your plans. But, really, there are a ton more amazing writers who've been rejected by grad schools than there are great bands that have never won a Grammy. ** Antonio, First, here's your Yury translation of that Russian sentence: 'Have you tried to take sleeping pills in combination with laxatives?' I hope you weren't hoping for something more esoteric. The writer Brian Pera once set up a collaborative writing piece where he, Kevin Killian, Stephen Beachy, Dodie Bellamy, and others including me wrote a long fiction thing that he was going to turn into a comic, though I don't think he ever did, but the point is that for whatever bizarre reason Haley Joel Osmond ended up being a major character in the piece, and, of course, in my part he got raped and a bunch of other awful stuff by ... robots, giants rabbits, something? Weird project that's probably going to bite all of us in the asses someday. Jessica Stockholder is an artist of total suckage, and when she got the job running the Yale program, many tears were wept. I'm on the Richard D. James album is his best thus far band wagon. ** Imnotstopping, I bet you know/knew Trevor Winkfield a little, right? I knew him a little through Elmslie and Ashbery and Brainard. Lovely guy, and, yes, and wonderful painter. ** Katsim, Of course I think your work is gallery worthy. The question is are the galleries are worthy, or, rather, are they smart enough to act worthy. Or something like that. Anyway, I totally meant that about recommendations and letters and all that. When you feel the time is right, just say the word. For now I say make some paintings because dealers like to see a bunch to help them decide. ** Tony oneill, Thanks, Tony, for everything, hosting, pictures in the mail, your kindliness and brilliance. ** Antler, No worries about the photo. It's lodged in obscurity. I don't know why, but I'm glad to hear Antony is still a bulky boy. I'm curious about what he did on the new Bjork album. Marina Abramovic: I used to know her an itty bitty bit. Her work was in a show I curated at Pat Hearn Gallery. She used to live in Amsterdam, but I don't know if she still does, and she had the most incredible big loft on one of the canals. French ass worshipping isn't just an affliction of the French. Which is a roundabout way of saying I like French asses too, and if my work is full of asses, and it is, the French deserve the blame/credit, and one of the working titles my novel-in-progress that will probably never see the light of day is 'French Hole.' ** 5stringsA, I wrote a poem for the Lady Bugs actor when he died. It made me sad. I saw him at Virgin Records once. He was very cute and looked very morose. ** Imri, Me too, about KTL coming to Berlin. I'll finally get there and for a real reason. Amanda Lear is on primetime French TV all the time talking about this and that as one of the regular guests on the endless array of French TV shows where people 'of note' talk endlessly about this and that. She looks good. ** Chris, No, I haven't read the Benabou book. I should, huh? Okay. I'm envious about the 'Secret Public' show. I read about it, and it sounds really enticing. Is there a catalog? A big Samuel Beckett show just opened here at Pompidou, and I really want to see that. I hear it's sharp. ** Paul Curran, Thanks, Paul. Is everybody in your house feeling better, I hope? ** Vomitingghosts, I second you on the McSweeneys Oulipo thing, and they made it look really swell. ** Killer luka, Oh shit, you posted on my mistake post, and I deleted the post with your poor comment attached? I have to look before I leap next time. Horror Hospital: It's a story and a graphic novel by me starring a fictitious punk band called Horror Hospital who were based on a real LA punk band from the late 70s called Horror Hospital who must have gotten the name from the film. I do want to hear much more about the dolls whenever you feel like it, and hopefully I won't kill your words next time. ** Math t., Howdy, pal. Tote that bale. ** Doug Wasted, Yeah, I'm gonna set up a permanent link to the HH film this weekend. How were Arcade Fire? ** Mark, Cool. I'm biting my fingernails awaiting Nick's photo-, etc.- filled email(s). A little bird told me a possible collab between you and Nick and Mr. Pajot? True? Sounds tasty. ** Jeff, I do very much like Harry Matthews, yes, and a Day in the not too distant future will hopefully cement that. Among the other Oulipo writers, Queneau and Roubaud are really great and must reads, I think. There are other excellent ones in there too. I'd pick up that Atlas book of selected writings by the Oulipo writers (Oulipo Compedium) to see what you think of them and who strikes your fancy. The Matthew Stokoe book was published by LHotB before I took over the imprint, so it technically isn't my series, as you can probably tell by its pretty bad cover. But thanks for digging in. Your future thoughts and opinions would be most welcome. ** Adjoun, Sadly, I'm not as up on the names of the doggyboys as I should be. I'm more like, oh, I like that blonde one or whatever. Arunas is pretty charming. Willy's a little masculine looking for me maybe, but I haven't seen that clip. The only doggyboys stuff I know are the pix and clips I can find for free, and most of them feature their more vintage models. Hm. Why are they such favorites with you? I don't know if that's an answerable question, but ... ** Michael_karo, Got your email. Your timing is perfect. I'm doing one of those things you wondered about next week, and your bud will be part of it, so thanks mucho and nice psychic detective work. ** William, Hey. Thanks a lot. And, obviously, it's cool to see you, and don't be stranger unless being a stranger suits your purposes. Take care. ** Winter rates, I sure did listen your show in archive, and that was a wild one in the best possible way. From that Who bunch then going on a real rollercoaster of tone staying totally a surprise to the very end. Some of the songs for which I was especially grateful and/or pleasingly startled : Hot Tuna (whoa) and that whole section with Gene Vincent and everyone (whoa!) , 'Safe as Milk,' the Van Morrison, Wire, of course 'Awful Bliss,' etc. Nice, nice, nice. ** JW Veldhoen, In your dad's pick-up! In his rig! I'm liking that. It's tough. ** Rigby101, I'm gonna do a Rimming Day. I'm not sure who I should ask to write the official instructions section unless it's .... you! Or did you ask because you want instruction? No, I bet you're second only to me in the ... "Hey, man, you want your ass to feel like a genius?' ... stakes. Okay, more soon. ** I'm so late again. I'm falling into bad habits. But at least you have the weekend to look this post over. Uh, have good ones. Monday it is.

170 comments:

David Ehrenstein said...

I trust everyone's familiar with THIS "Horror Hospital" -- which as you see was directed by Burroughs boytoy Anthony Balch. Really quite good, BTW, though not at all like Towers Open Fire.

David Ehrenstein said...

As you pobably know, Dennis, the L.A. Times is having a complete edtiorial nervous breakdown. But they're interested in doing this so I'm giving it an all-out push.

By contrast the L.A. Weekly
appears to be on life-supports what with being decimated by Michael Lacey -- the Charles Foster Kane from Planet 10.

Chris said...

Know what, Dennis, you can probably live without the Benabou, it's cute, it's superFrench, but maybe life's too short for that many degrees of meta. I'd like to read some of his other stuff, though. Apparently he's "permanent provisional secretary of Oulipo". -- Well anyway my breath will be in permanent bate-mode in anticipation of Perec Day and Mathews Day and if you feel like a Queneau day with all the sonnets, right? then I wouldn't kick it out of bed.

'Secret Public' is so small, though. Almost everything in it is intensely worthwhile but it's definitely a sample rather than a survey. I'll try and get a proper review up over at my place later. I didn't see a catalogue as such, there was a substantial-looking guide brochure but I didn't pick one up.

Loving today -- thank you -- the Lazzara/Oberst (and its sequel) are particularly beautiful. I contemplated Molko/McKellen for about four seconds and now I want that bit of my brain carbolically scrubbed.

For me I'm afraid nothing will ever approach the golden age of Hanson porn. But as Harold Pinter says of the great Len Hutton: "Another time, another time."

rigby101 said...

dennis - i love this slash stuff.. i think it's one of the great things the internet has given us.. i don't read as much as i should (as i can't read off screen for too long - and the sites are usually awful looking which doesn't help).. but you've uncovered a great bunch here of which i've read the blur and NIN ones.. has this stuff been published in paper i wonder..

hehe make your arsehole feel like a genius that's from one of your books right.. or have you said that on here before.. anyway i prefer being the receiver but as long as there is no hair crack involved i'll partake (being somewhat of a trichophobic).. bring on the day!

corpodibacco said...

unrelatedly but not so much, and a bit late, I wanted first of all to thank everyone at the Userlands events here in NYC for the amazing experience!
and also, that I will be in the city until the 30th and I was thinking, we all should get together at least another time, maybe for dinner or whatever you guys feel like.
Teenagekicks, Justin, Math, Robert, Antlers, all the others. What do you think?
Anyway, so, otherwise, whatever: I'm around, avaliable. ciao--

math t said...

oh awesome. i heart slash. i've read a few of these before. the Blur one is pretty rockin.

i think my favorite slash story ever is this Morrissey / Brett Anderson one.

luv, math+

math t said...

__corpodibacco, that sounds like an awesome idea. i'm totally game! my email: math at pleasureiseasy dot info.

xo, math+

Bernard Welt said...

Oh yes, "What's for Dinner?' I think I mentioned it here a few weeks back. It's a little like Mr. Bridge and Mrs. Bridge, too, a great parody of the imkage of middle-class America, but funnier, sexier, crazier. I love the two brothers jacking off together, too; I think I had to whack off every time I re-read that scene for years.
Speaking of which: Frottage--oh yes. When you're in high school or college it's even more exciting than blow jobs because you're face to face with the guy you're hot for, and hugging-in the Princeton rub form, anyway. It was my preferred form of sex up till the day I discovered blowing strangers in backroom bars.
Anyhoo: Another Rousselesque novel is Edmund White's Forgetting Elena, the only one of his books I drag out and re-read from time to time. I still have it in the paperback that tries to make it look like a Harlequin romance. It's more Nabokovian than Rousselesque, but it's really good at what it does.
I was going to mention Benabou, too, mainly because I so identify with someone who's written "Why I Have Not Written Any of My Books."
I bought a copy of it in Paris last time I was there, at the same time I bought that little bilingual book with the piece you wrote about the stuff in your youth behind your subject matter--which is great and which I guess everyone here's read but if they haven't, they should. I also got a little book called "Eloge de la masturbation," a paean to self-abuse, by Philippe Brenot, a writer I otherwise know nothing about. I guess you are just too busy to learn French, but it's a cool language; I'm not as in love with it as I once was but it's still very sexy to wrap your lips around, and it's an awful lot of fun to negotiate sex with a cute guy who speaks about as much English as you speak French. I still remember the cute Swiss guy who came back from my bathroom, sweetly asking, "I can use your brushtooth?"
(I just wikied Brenot and he's a psychiatrist who's written novels and a psychobiography of Romain Gary.)
Jacking off is so vitally important to literary method, it's amazing there isn't a whole field devoted to it. Thomas Laqueur wrote a very good cultural history, but there is much, much more work to be done. Rimbaud of course is the poet laureate of pulling your pud; Foucault is the official philosopher. (Are the French parrticularly devoted to taking matters into their own hands or do they just talk about it more than anyone else?) A student once asked me if I thought there was any chance that Jackson Pollock jacked off on his canvases. One thing In enjoy in my Sex in American Cinema class is that inevitably there's some discussion in which it becomes clear that nearly everyone in the class still thinks of masturbation as a "subsitute" for sex, as not "real" sex, as some kind of illegitimate, invalid, retarded, grotesque parody of sex, which seems a really counterproductive attitude to adopt at a time in your life when you're almost certain to jack off a whole lot more than you're going to get laid.
Thank you for the information on Kubrick and tits, although I'm not quite sure what to do with it. There's this story about Rober Altman showing the rough cut of "The Player" to someone--Paul Newman?--who said, "I get it: You get to see the tits of the woman you don't want to see the tits of, and you don't get to see the tits of the woman whose tits you do want to see." And Altman said, "Exactly."
Thus art imitates life.

lautreamont said...

Dear Dennis,
What a challenge to introduce you to Egyptian literature…
I’ve chose to begin with my favourite writer – such a great poet – who is a character in the Lawrence Durell Alexandria’s Quartet.
Constantin Cavafy, who you may have heard of, was an Egyptian Greek poet, and for me the first important writer of the modern Egyptian literature. Ha has published only about 200 privately printed poems. Cavafy has come in recent years to be regarded as a the greatest Mediterranean poet of modern times.

He who longs to strengthen his spirit
must go beyond obedience and respect,
He will continue to honor some laws
but he will mostly violate
both law and custom.
(from 'Strengthening the Spirit', 1903)

Fourteen of Cavafy's poems were published in a pamphlet in 1904. The edition was enlarged in 1910. Several dozens appeared subsequent years in a number of privately printed booklets and broadsheets. These editions contained mostly the same poems, first arranged thematically, and then chronologically. But each booklet was precisely dedicated to someone : homoerotic pamphlets were dedicated for example to some of the sons of his relatives or . Close to one third of his poems were never printed in any form while he lived. 'One Night,' written 1907, was one of the erotic poems Cavafy wrote during the years in Alexandria, and referred to a passing sexual encounter, a memory of sensual pleasures:

And there on that common, humble bed,
I had love's body, hand those intoxicating lips,
red and sensual,
red lips of such intoxication
that now as I write, after so many years,
in my lonely house, I'm drunk with passion again.

Cavafy composed rhymed as well as free verse, but never loose, unstructured, or irregular poems. He used iambic, eleven-syllable measures, including the popular fifteen-syllable verse of the demotic tradition. After giving up experiments with different literary models, Cavafy mixed the demotic and pure Greek called katharevousa, and used his wide knowledge of the history of East Roman and Byzantine empires as the basis of his themes. In 'The God Abandon's Anthony' he utilized Shakespeare's play Anthony and Cleopatra and Plutarch's Life of Anthony to describe sense of loss through the fictive voice of an unknown person, who addresses Mark Anthony:

"As one long prepared, and graced with courage,
as it right for you who were given this kind of city,
go firmly to the window
and listen with deep emotion, but not
with the whining, the pleas of a coward;
listen - your final delectation - to the voices,
to the exquisite music of that strange procession,
and say goodbye to her, to the Alexandria you are losing."

In the Tavernas :

I wallow in the tavernas and brothels of Beirut.
I didn't want to stay
in Alexandria. Tamides left me;
he went off with the Prefect's son to earn himself
a villa on the Nile, a mansion in the city.
It wouldn't have been decent for me to stay in Alexandria.
I wallow in the tavernas and brothels of Beirut.
I live a vile life, devoted to cheap debauchery.
The one thing that saves me,
like durable beauty, like perfume
that goes on clinging to my flesh, is this: Tamides,
most exquisite of young men, was mine for two years,
mine completely and not for a house or a villa on the Nile.
1926

The windows
In these darkened rooms, where I spend
oppresive days, I pace to and fro
to find the windows. -- When a window
opens, it will be a consolation. --
But the windows cannot be found, or I cannot
find them. And maybe it is best that I do not find them.
Maybe the light will be a new tyranny.
Who knows what new things it will reveal.
Ithaca
When you set out on your journey to Ithaca,
pray that the road is long,
full of adventure, full of knowledge.
The Lestrygonians and the Cyclops,
the angry Poseidon -- do not fear them:
You will never find such as these on your path,
if your thoughts remain lofty, if a fine
emotion touches your spirit and your body.
The Lestrygonians and the Cyclops,
the fierce Poseidon you will never encounter,
if you do not carry them within your soul,
if your soul does not set them up before you.

Pray that the road is long.
That the summer mornings are many, when,
with such pleasure, with such joy
you will enter ports seen for the first time;
stop at Phoenician markets,
and purchase fine merchandise,
mother-of-pearl and coral, amber and ebony,
and sensual perfumes of all kinds,
as many sensual perfumes as you can;
visit many Egyptian cities,
to learn and learn from scholars.

Always keep Ithaca in your mind.
To arrive there is your ultimate goal.
But do not hurry the voyage at all.
It is better to let it last for many years;
and to anchor at the island when you are old,
rich with all you have gained on the way,
not expecting that Ithaca will offer you riches.

Ithaca has given you the beautiful voyage.
Without her you would have never set out on the road.
She has nothing more to give you.

And if you find her poor, Ithaca has not deceived you.
Wise as you have become, with so much experience,
you must already have understood what Ithacas mean.
1911
Half an hour
I never had you, nor will I ever have you
I suppose. A few words, an approach
as in the bar yesterday, and nothing more.
It is, undeniably, a pity. But we who serve Art
sometimes with intensity of mind, and of course only
for a short while, we create pleasure
which almost seems real.
So in the bar the day before yesterday -- the merciful alcohol
was also helping much --
I had a perfectly erotic half-hour.
And it seems to me that you understood,
and stayed somewhat longer on purpose.
This was very necessary. Because
for all the imagination and the wizard alcohol,
I needed to see your lips as well,
I needed to have your body close.

1917

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dooflow said...

Regarding Delany day, I'd love it. I've already been putting things together in my head (You're a sweet guy, and I was sure you'd agree-thanks). I'll try to send once a week care packages until we have it.

The slash fiction is funny & oddly affecting & groovy. I keep thinking of my fave poetic image of yours-John John Jr. holding his weighty head in his hands (From Tenderness of Wolves-which is also responsible for me listening to Magazine.)

Jacques Roubaud! The Hortense stuff is a blast. 'Some Thing Black' is a great, great instance of the creativity of grief. He gets stupid, in a way, to deal with the loss of his wife. A sad, sad book that makes you feel better and love who you love more. 'The Great Fire of London' & 'Plurality of Worlds of Lewis' are all fascinating. He's constantly my fave Oulipian.

For those of the systems of writing bent-try Christian Bok (picture umlauts over the o). 'Eunioa' is all lipograms (an amazing feat-that sort of shares the secret language of each vowel-but really goes nowhere). 'Crystallography' is where it is at. Beautiful. Moving from outer space to the structure of minerals to his relationship with his father and the lattice of language and feeling. I've taught it a few times and always got positive feedback.

Or: my idol, hero, imago, homeslice, amigo: Kenneth Goldsmith. Who never ceases to amaze me, even when he's doing something like listing his record collection. Good weekend all. I'll probably be back.

dooflow said...

Atheist-

I'm a sex/gender/queer studies junkie. If I get some time, I will go through my indexes and see what I can find for you.

The absence of the male prostitute is fascinating. Deal with that. The male prostitute as lack. In the full vaginal, genital meaning of the word. If D&G peg desire as built on plenitude (and...and...and) & the male prosti. is absence that we add our "ands" to- common language-the guy the Dennis character rents in 'Frisk.' Or George Miles the literary figure.

I would check books that discuss Foucault. There are some terrible biographies of him that dwell on this aspect of his life, how do these "biographers" approach the issue? In addition, Renaud Camus' 'Tricks' is a pretty good book. Fiction, but so what.

Delany deals with it in his Neveryone series. The notion of the collar and desire.

If it is not there, you found a dissertationist's dream. New work. Good luck.

antonio said...

YES!! today is absolutely one of my fave days!!
haha kurt and dave is sorta hot, circa 1992 anyway..
but johnny depp and danny elfman!!?! hahahahahaha danny is so sorta NOT HOT. and i'm not too keen on johnny depp either actually.
and also the interpol one is totally hot!!
because i LOVE interpol SO much!!

WHO LOVES INTERPOL!?! admit it!!
you can love JOY DIVISION AND ITERPOL AT THE SAME TIME!!

you can love ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE AND INTERPOL AT THE SAME TIME TOO GUYS!!

acid mothers temple, and sir richard bishop are playing here soon. insane!!!
i predict that there will be 4 people who show up.

JUST DO IT!!
GIVE YOUSELF OVER TO INTERPOL!!!
i read that interpol slash TWICE!@!


IS THAT WHAT THAT SAYS!?!?!?!?!?
..ugh..
i was totally hoping for someing amazing..
well then my babelfish translation wasnt off as much as i thought!!

hahahah laxatives and sleeping pills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


EHRENSTEIN!
I VOLUNTEER TO PULL THE L.A. TIMES OUT OF THEIR SLUMP!!!!

my editorial recommendations include

-pages of black block
-fully black pages
-fully white pages
-john cage musical notations
-10 pages given to whoever wants them every sunday!
-all comics will be replaced by the cartoons of ad reinhardt
-terence koh and/or nayland blake will PERSONALLY cum on every issue

David Ehrenstein said...

Your talk of tits, Bernard, reminds me of My Favorite Hollywood Story of All Time:

The tits you Do want to see in The Player belong to Greta Scacchi. A good actress, but for years Greta's principle claim to fame was A Balcony You Could Do Shakesperare From. And the great thing was shecould be counted on to take off her top in every movie.

Except The Player (which of course was Altman's joke on all Greta's 4th Estate fans.)

Among the members of the Los Angeles Film Critics Association she was especially popular. At one annual meeting when we were putting "Best Special Effects" up for possible awards, someone piped-up "Greta Scacchi!" it was probably Tom McCarthy of "Daily Variety" as he was her greatest fan.

Then Dangerous Liasons, came along, and I trust you'll rememebr there's a great scene where the lovely Uma Thurman takes off the white shift sh'es been barely wearing to reveal an utterly Fabulous pair of knockers.

Well word went round the town like wildfire "We have a contender!"

Now all this, mind you was taking place during preview season MONTHS before the film actually opened. And as it turned out, Todd, whose duties take him far and wide, didn't catch Dangerous Liasons until its very last press preview. So he gets a seat down front. The big moment comes. The shift flies off. and then suddenly a voice can be heard coming from the back of the theater:

"They're not that big!"

It was Greta Scacchi.

antonio said...

I ALWAYS CONFUSE DELEUZE AND GUATTARI WITH DOLCE AND GABBANANA!!!!!!!!!!

robert-nyc said...

dennis,

Both readings were a blast. Everyone was remarkable and enjoyable to meet. Not a bad reading in the house either night, unless I stunk and nobody told me, but yes, the events were fantastic. After the Thursday reading, we all went out for a bit, and that was a damn good time as well. Thank you for allowing all of this to happen Dennis. Much gratitude sent your way.

I have to rush off to a one-year-old's first birthday party right now. Those are always odd, especially when it's a friend's child and you're basically hanging out with your friend's family and other friends that you hardly ever see.

Corpodibacco and Math, I'm totally down for getting together again. My e-mail is ertsick@hotmail.com.

Later,

Robert

David Ehrenstein said...

"I ALWAYS CONFUSE DELEUZE AND GUATTARI WITH DOLCE AND GABBANANA!!!!!!!!!!"

You're not the only one.

5StringsA_ said...

Dennis,

I know, he was so cute. He had the perfect, "I'm sexy, I'm fuct, I get it, and I just can't give a fuck. Love me, etc." look about him. Antonio LOL! Did HJO turn out cute? I thought he was weirdly mongoloidishly cute. Writing for writing's sake? "Everything I do is an exercise."? Hope you're doing good, much love

SYpHA_69 said...

Ah, slash. I don't really read as much of it as I should, either. My friend who runs the This Plague of Dreaming netlabel, his wife writes slash, mainly involving hobbits I believe... from the Lord of the Rings, or something like that. I do know that there's a lot of LOTR slash on the web... ditto for Harry Potter, Xena, etc.

Well, it's official, I'm abandoning the Warhol project. It was just too much, I was driving myself nuts over it. I think when it comes to writing a book it should be 50% hard work and 50% fun, and the way this thing was shaping up it was going to end up being 90% hard work and 10% fun. I don't mind doing research, to an extent, but in this case there were just way too many sources. And just when I thought I knew everything I knew about one particular subject, I would discover another little fact, which would make me wonder "Gee, I bet there's a lot of other little facts about this I don't even know yet. I should do more research." It was nuts. I hadn't even gotten to Warhol himself yet, I was just researching the people he hung out with. And of course, in regards to Warhol himself he was always spreading misinformation and contradictions about himself around, so... yikes. Maybe another time, then, but there's no way I'm doing this project now.

I think part of my problem is that I'm constantly trying to do projects that almost inevitably end up in failure. I'll start writing something out, then I think "Oh, I shouldb really be writing the (such and such) book instead", so I'll quit the one I'm working on to start the other one, but then I'll think "Do I really want to be writing this? I should be working on (such and such) book instead", and it just becomes a vicious circle. I think I'll just abandon all my current writing projects and just start something totally new.

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insidetheroar said...
slash fiction. and i thought spam poets. finding some way to meatgrind through your filters. key words.dropped names. and body morphing puppeteers.

does everyone get this spam poetry, and if so, when you reply (cause i always do), where does it really go? :

"Viagra $3.33
Valium $1.21
Cialis $3.75
Ambien $2.89
Soma $1.13
Xanax $1.42

Save over 50%
with our shop

our planet, geologists the strata and the schist. tachyometer and Im going to get it now. Floyd will join you shortly- a lot more things I would like to know first. derision out of my voice. Cooked down to essentials it means that we Grab his case. Cuff him. Bring him. A man of few words, the clutter; water tanks, vents, aircon units-and a goodsized smokestack has to be rewritten? act. Not what I would call sincerely law-abiding. Are you there, Tremearne? Either to guard the beasts or keep them from wandering. I have a Very good-except for the title and the last line. We survived. survivors aside, tell them about me and the assignment. Ill meet them ceiling, I pushed the knob at the end against the plaster and switched way, but didnt really wake up until I broke one of the fruits open. on the screen. I supposed they called it the Pentagon. alien race has ever been found."

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dooflow said...

Antonio-I think it is useful to confuse them and you should.

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Tonyoneill said...

Slash fiction is CRAZY. Why had I never heard of this before?????????

Intrigued by the idea of Danny Elfman as masterbatory fodder. Very strange.

We should collate a dream team of who should be in future slash fictions. I'll have to think about this.

Dannis, have you ever found youself the subject of slash fiction??? If so, did you like the piece?

Insidetheroar, here is a link to someone who has created / curated a bunch of spam poetry

http://www.benmyers.com/spam/index.php

Its pretty good!

PPS - everybody did really great at the reading last night. hope i didnt fuck up your bio's too much! but I left feeling really inspired.

Mark said...

Hey Dennis- Yeah, Nick's day should be amazing. Not to be a nag, but did you get the writing I sent you?

Sean, Nick and I...yeah, I had this idea, a big and interesting collaboration: We are all very different writers, what if we worked on something together, but also apart, like remixing/rewriting each others work More details to be ironed out for sure, but I'm psyched that they are both on board.

Have a good weekend...

insidetheroar said...

insidetheroar said...
is it all about the body. ies.

that's how it comes through.

sold to science.

analycyst minds. tell me. who

doesn't want a price.

a value. meaning. a 2nd house.

and constellated lineage.

who.

March 24, 2007 10:59:00 AM PDT

Chris said...

Just wanting to echo dooflow's shout for Christian Bok. Eunoia is a stunning achievement, or a stunningly realized non-achievement maybe. Bok's a great performer too. Check out his performance of the Ursonate in the sound section of Ubuweb. It's so dirty you could draw Willie Nelson's picture in it with your finger.

Ditto Kenny Goldsmith, a really smart guy. I wrote a fairly sceptical review of his book Day for The Gig -- I think it might be online somewhere -- and to his credit he seemed to find it pretty amusing. His whole thing about 'uncreativity' bothers me a bit, I think its listlessness is politically unsound, but maybe he's not on that tip so much now. His earlier transcription-based work is quite brilliant, at any rate.

Oh hey Atheist -- I'm really really sorry, I owe you an email, that's so overdue. *makes friendly atheist-like gesture in parenthesis* -- I promise I'll write later. I'm really liking hearing more about your project. xx

wolf said...

slash fiction, it sounds terrible and feels weird and somewhat geeky and still its so great, i dont get it. love it.
than NIN one... ah ah, i wonder if it ever happened. oh, i'm sure it did.
and brian molko... that reminded me, dennis, do you have any links to him, i mean, did you ever meet him, does he know/like you, i guess he does right? i could totally imagine him writing some musical adaptation of , mmh, closer? or wrong maybe?

and DAVID E. on greta scacchi... i think i only saw her in "the serpent's kiss" which is one of my favourite movies but it seems it had very limited release/fame anywhere... anybody here saw it? i think it's what got me into andrew marvell... //

Unless the giddy heaven fall,
And earth some new convulsion tear.
And, us to join, the world should all
Be cramp'd into a planisphere.

As lines, so love's oblique, may well
Themselves in every angle greet :
But ours, so truly parallel,
Though infinite, can never meet.

Therefore the love which us doth bind,
But Fate so enviously debars,
Is the conjunction of the mind,
And opposition of the stars.

///
was there a metaphysical poets day once, dennis?
or maybe you hate the stuff?
///
Ope then, mine eyes, your double sluice,
And practise so your noblest use ;
For others too can see, or sleep,
But only human eyes can weep.
Now, like two clouds dissolving, drop,
And at each tear in distance stop ;
Now, like two fountains, trickle down ;
Now, like two floods, o'erturn and drown :
Thus let your streams o'erflow your springs,
Till eyes and tears be the same things ;
And each the other's difference bears,
These weeping eyes, those seeing tears.
///

from trent blowing robin to marvell's laments. how the fuck did i slide that way?
that far?
how flexible is a brain, and how much can you stretch it before it SNAPS LIKE A DRY RUBBER BAND WITH WHICH YOU WANTED TO ENSURE THE VEIN CARRIED HARD ENOUGH A FLOW BUT YOU END UP BURSTING IT, ARM CRIMSON FOREVER?

antonio said...

no HJO DID NOT turn out cute!
i think it's in his eyes!
his eyelids curve down too much!

HIS EYELIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dooflow said...

Short Notice Favors: I'm going to be in Connecticut from the 1st to 5th of April. Anyone in NYC or New Haven or Hartford hook me up with a poetry reading? Or North Hampton, MA? I can do 3rd or 4th in NYC, and CT 2nd, 3rd, or 4th.
I'm sort of a Mathew Herbert ran through Bad Brains, Kenneth Goldsmith/Bruce Andrews via Vito Acconcci/On Kawara kind of think thing. Very amusing, my performance usually lasts about 15 minutes. I've done it too many times out here (Denver) and I'm played out. Anyone? I'd be grateful.

antonio said...

eeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeelidss!!!

ROBERT NYC!!

i KNOW what you mean about the KIDZ

i fucking HATE little kidz
i am STOIC in the face of children
smash them immediately
TO BITS

i much prefer porcelain children
french antique ones

we have this kid over at my house right now
because my mom wants to have a cookout or something!!

I DONT KNOW WHY SHE IS TRYING TO TORTURE ME BECAUSE I HAVE NO TEETH TO EAT HAMBURGERS WITH!!!!!!!

ROBERT NYC COME TO MY HOUSE
AND SMASH THIS CHILD FOR ME!!!!!

its my moms friends child
some little kid who wants to keep fucking with my organ and andother stuff
WEAR THIS CHILD OUT!!!

i am so bored with this child
i do not want anything to do with it
this is why i am being antisocial and typing on my laptop on the sofa when there's my mom trying to talk to me with this little fucking child running around
"GO IN THERE WITH DADDY!! GO WITH DADDY!!"

please kill this child
i just told its mom that "IM ON ALOT OF DRUGS RIGHT NOW"

ohmygod..
now theyre arguing over who's going to keep this child
MURDER THE CHILD!!
MURDER IT!!!!

porn time

antonio said...

this childs name is "SHAUNACY or something
i think CHAUNCEY
or some crazy name.

wtf.!?

antonio said...

i'm going to crack his fragile little paper skull open like pure bisque doll heads.

HAIRLINE FRRAAACTURRRE!!!

David Ehrenstein said...

Welcome to the Slash-O-Matic

Today's Bill of Fare:

Keanu Reeves

and

Gedde Watanabe

David Ehrenstein said...

Robert Downey Jnr

and

Goran Visnjic

David Ehrenstein said...

Ron Athey

and

Victor Garber

David Ehrenstein said...

Christopher Nolan

and

David O. Russell

David Ehrenstein said...

Frank Gillis

and

James LeGros

David Ehrenstein said...

Christian Slater

and

Jim Fall

David Ehrenstein said...

and last but not least,

Patrice Chereau

and

Alessandro Nivola

dooflow said...

Slash Idea: Robin Guthrie & Harold Budd

imnotstopping said...

Lautremont - Cavafy: E. M Forster met him in Alexandria c. 1918 and I think got the first English translations made. In the 1960s David Hockney made wonderful etchings for an edition of poems translated by Nikos Stangos.

I love this one:


I've Looked So Much...


I've looked on beauty so much
that my vision overflows with it.

The body's lines. Red lips. Sensual limbs.
Hair as though stolen from Greek statues,
always lovely, even uncombed,
and falling slightly over pale foreheads.
Figures of love, as my poetry desired them
. . . . in the nights when I was young,
encountered secretly in my nights.




Antonio - do you have Deleuze and Guattari underpants?

Steve said...

How much digging did it take to find these slash gems? I find the concept interesting, but the signal-to-noise ratio is so high that I've given up actually reading the stuff. The best slash fiction I've ever read was Bert/Ernie/Elmo. I wish I still had the link.

Andrew Gallix said...

Hi there Dennis,

Didn't get back to you straight away on the recording thing, because I was waiting for Vim. Shall we try to meet up some time, preferably a Tuesday or Wednesday afternoon and preferably somewhere pretty quiet? I'll be in London as of April 7th until the end of April. Before is probably a bit short notice, so: end of April?

Been loving the blog, in particular your presentation of the Lynch exhibition I've yet to see, and your entry on all those legendary gigs you attended. The Ramones at the Roundhouse is probably the one I'd have preferred to be at. On the subject of the Hammersmith Palais, I saw The Clash there (late 79 or early 80) -- incredible gig. I remember Joe Strummer saying "Let's not get sentimental about this one" before "White Man in Hammersmith Palais".

Hope Tony will do a write-up for us of the NY Userlands gig.

Take care!

insidetheroar said...

dooflow:

Northampton MA used to be an Isle of Lesbos. there were once good house parties there. even small town band followings. i'm not sure how it is anymore since i left. once the Yuppies came and turned it into their place of occupation. I do still have friends there though. and if you email me some informedation i am sure i can hook you up with a few people who can hook you up.

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adjoun said...

atheist!

I just send you a large e-mail about the situation of male-prostitution in the netherlands and the names of dutch academics who done reasearch on this subject.

tell me if it came through. I used your address that is said in your blogger profile.

I think DC could also tell yuou a thing or two about it and then some

adjoun ;-)

paradigm said...

sypha 69, the LOTR slash fiction i have read all features sam and frodo as lovers. it would be great to read a slash fiction that casts frodo as an evil selfish fucker who destroys a fake ring rather then the real ring so he can have the power since he's jealous of bilbo and has been ignored his whole life.

for those who want to hear chistian bok eunia it's hear at:
http://www.ubu.com/sound/bok.html

to listen to lipograms is great. the rythym of words with only one vowel is greats. it's amazing how many sounds one vowel makes.

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lautreamont said...

Dear Dennis,
I’m becoming addicted to your fantastic blog…
As I told you, I’m not very fluent in English, and it takes me … hours for writing my commentaries…

Here is a small tribute to your blog about Jean-Pierre Brisset – a Foucault/Pataphysic/OuLiPo linked – writer? Not sure… The Prnce of Thnkers, a joke of course!

Jean-Pierre Brisset is interesting – but not only - because he anticipates somehow Derrida (différance) by taking a lexical trick that works only in French and using it as the basis for Universal Theory, despite most of us not having been blessed with an intimate command of the language of the empire. However, where Jacques made of this patent idiocy a sterile dogma with which a generation of smart students were beaten into incoherence, Jean-Pierre turns it into surreal brilliance. First here’s a summary of Brisset’s biography:
1852 Aged 15, leaves his parents Lower Normandy farm to work as an apprentice pastry cook in Paris.
1855 Joins the army and leaves for the Crimea.
1859 Learns Italian while fighting against Austria
1870 Learns German as a POW in Magdeburg.
1871 Publishes Swimming, or the art of swimming learnt in less than an hour [La natation ou l’art de nager appris seul en moins d’une heure]. Patents inflatable swimming girdle, a commercial failure. He then lived in Marseille, where the Communard revolution, in which he was involved, was severely repressed.
1874 Publishes a French language method in Magdeburg.
1876 Back in the army, patents a planchette calligraphique, which I take to be some kind of early stencilling tool.
1877 Leaves the army for the last time but unable to obtain employment as a language teacher in Parisian schools for lack of a Latin diploma.
1878 Publishes The Logical grammar, or a theory of a new mathematical analysis [La grammaire logique ou théorie d’une nouvelle analyse mathématique].
1879 Starts work as a railway station supervisor in Orchies, a small town on the Belgian border.
1883 Around the time of the publication of the second edition of his Grammar, and while working at a station in Angers, realises one day that man is born in water, his ancestor is the frog, and that the latter can be proved by the analysis of human languages.
1890 Publishes The mystery of God accomplished [Le mystère de Dieu est accompli] from his home in Saint-Serge station, Angers.
1891 The mayor of Angers and the owner of the circus-theatre refuse to allow him to hold talks on their premises, so he speaks in several bars in Paris, including the Turkish café opposite which he had trained to make croissants.
1900 Having terminated his railway career without signal success, he has the Parisian criers distribute a sheet advertising the appearance of The science of God, or the creation of man [La Science de Dieu ou la création de l’homme].
1906 Publishes The prophecies accomplished (Daniel and the Apocalypse) [Les Prophéties accomplies (Daniel et l’Apocalypse)]
1913 Elected Prince of Thinkers by admirers, gives speech at celebratory dinner. Dies several months later, having refused the last rites. His grave is lost.
1963 waswMade a pataphysic saint.
And here’s an excerpt from The science of God, quoted in Jean-Jacques Thomas & Steven Winspur, Poeticized Language: The Foundations of Contemporary French Poetry:
J’ai un l’eau, je mans [I have the water, I ea(t)], which became
Jj’ai un logement [I have a home], shows us that the first home was in water and that people ate there. L’eau j’ai, our ancestors were lodged (logé); l’auge j’ai = I have my auge (pig trough). The first trough was a pond (mare à boue [mud pond] or marabout [Moslem saint]), which became the first site for worship. A l’eau berge (at the water bank; also, at the inn [à l’auberge]), on the bank of the waters; dans les eaux t’es (in the waters you are) = dans les hôtels (in the hotels). […] Consequently, our ancestors lived in the waters, ponds, and marshes. Since grenouille and reinette are but one and the same (reinette: little queen of the water banks) it has to be (il faut = il f’eau = il f’aux = [I am lying]: such is the subtlety of the lying ancestor: when he wanted to pounce on his victim, he pretended to eat a tree-frog–reinette–which gave him confidence) that grenouille and pomme come together in a sauce: en sauce y étaient (in sauce were they), they were in society (en societé) […]. The two fishermen wanted it that way, the big men (les grosnouille) used to eat the small ones (reinette) and good folks continue to celebrate this fact: “pomme de reinette et pomme d’api” (pippin apple and lady apple). Api, just like grenouille tapie (a frog hiding) in the waters and waiting for its victim.
There’s much more on this site. I’ve been performing bits of Kurt Schwitters and other crazies for years, so it’s quite distressing to realise that Brisset’s been out of my sight, out of his mind, all that time. Because he is God, actually.
A sample of his poetic analysis of linguistic :

Les dents, la bouche.
Les dents la bouchent,
l'aidant la bouche.
L'aide en la bouche.
Laides en la bouche.
Laid dans la bouche.
Lait dans la bouche.
L'est dam le à bouche.
Les dents-là bouche.
from La grande loi ou la clef de la parole
All based on Paronymy
I hope I helped a little bit.

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adjoun said...

lautreamont,

recently I attended a evening of kurt schwitters poetry at the goethe institute in rotterdam, the netherlands, where I live.

well, i t was done by two women form the conservatorium and very decently done, but to me it was a bit too "correct" and "studied" to make it anything resemlbing a dada evening in the 1910s. the public was of course tres bourgouise and laughing and applauding at any supposedly anti-bougeouis stick they were given. but then, maybe we have to thank these ladies and gentlemen of 60 years and older,who were the main public at this event, because it is their generation who keep the memroy of kurt schwitters alive by organising these evenings.

lautreamont said...

Hello Imnotstopping;
This is Lautremont
- Yes, about Cavafy, I've read the E. M Forster's book - Pharos and Pharillon - and the translations - even f I'm a french amateur of litterature... and not very comfortable whth english language (I'm not that fluent in english language, but very fluent in Latin, Greek and Arabic... Quite a very old school education, isn'it ?).
I know that Forster and Cavafy met in Alexandria before World War 1. More surprisingly, I've met in the 90's very old greek queens and ladies belonging to the old bourgeoisie who met him when they were young - in the late 30's. When Cavafy was stll alive and had become famous in this very restraint (?) circle of litterated (?) society... And I've been told direct and very interesting stories about the poet.
But i wont go on here : I guess here is not the place for talking together about poetry or in private.
Here is my e-mail : eric_cairo@yahoo.com

Dont hesitate to send me an e-mail. I'm a professional idle - and lover... I spend my time wandering around Ciaro, Louksor, oasises and Alexandria, writing short stories and enjoying this life in a society definitely not Occidental. let's have an e-mail conversation very soon.
Lautreamont

lautreamont said...

Antonio,
"I CONFUSE DELEUZE AND GUATTARI WITH DOLCE AND GABBANANA"
I hope this is a joke.
Or maybe you never ever read a book in your all life ?
Is philosophy a kind of under pants for you ?
What are you doing here ?
Lautreamont.

David Ehrenstein said...

Actually this IS the place to talk about poetry, espcialy if you've got some good dish, Monsiuer Ducasse.

BTW, I don't find Derrida as sterile or dogmatic as you do. I reccomedn Kirby Dick's documnetary about him, and his supporting performance in Ken Butler's fabulous film about cargo cults, Ghost Dance (which stars Pascal Ogier and Leonie Mellinger)

SYpHA_69 said...

I think my depression is really starting to get out of control. That's all I'll say about it on here. I've complained about my problems on here once too often. If people want more details (though why they'd want more details is beyond me) they can just read my LJ.

statictick said...

I don't know how I ended up posting this on yesterday's page. Proper dick up the ass can confuse you, 'specially me.

OK.

Mark: "the Truman Capote of Detroit"?!?!?! I just thought I was the Nick thereof. You know that white jacket was something Ben bought off a bum on the street seconds before we started to read. Not my usual appearance, but what the hell? I'm far cuter than Truman Captote, and much less affected. Well, I'll take some comparison compliment. The one I usually get compared to is fucking Hunter S. Thompson. I don't get that at all.

I don't know if "grandiose" is the word for the in-composition page. Dave's already said many of the photos are too dark; but, as I said, I like those the best. So I'm waiting for Sean to make some decisions about what he's got.

At the very least, I'll include our audio recording. Too bad I've not heard back yet from Perspects as to whether he recorded his wonderous improv. (Ian?) I will soon.

My normally chaste boyfriend, Weavie, enjoyed our performances to the point where I've been so laid I'm more than sore, and waiting for more. I think I almost cut off his airflow last night. Tonight, I plan to reinclude it.

Joseph Gordon Levitt. Some woman told me I looked like him when I was young, corporate for a year (ten years ago), and had long hair. Now, I'd like a mutual plow that lasts for at least a week. (Not with the woman, with him, duh.) I don't even care how good of an actor he is, and he is; I'd drag him somewhere seamy by his shoes, if I got the chance.

Be good, people. Or don't. I'm not gonna be, at least for as long as I can milk the weekend. (Oh, sideswipe: David E., others I hope to meet, it looks like LA is mid-next-week, given fookin standby. I hope someone in NYC gave A. Petrovich a nice, semi-slimy hug and kiss for me.

N.

statictick said...

Mark's got a great collab idea, and I"d really like to see it in print. I'd also like to see it banked off of in film presentation, musical presentation, and whatever we can manage. Start thinkin' dudes.

Sorry for all the grammar mishaps in last post. I know that doesn't matter, but it gets under me in a bad way, and I HATE that little trash can thing.

antonio said...

i dont joke.

joe mills said...

Just watched Horror Hospital, really worked for me. Was listening on headphones so that added to the appropriately claustrophobic feel, helped also by the lighting/sound etc. That is was made by young people came across in the energy and in the main actor's passion. Liked the dreamy/fantasy bits best. Great subtle use of sound and effects.And the fact it was in a (to me) foreign language helped in some way with the alienation. If anybody films something of mine I want it done in a foreign language.

I'm presuming Dennis since you're posting it you've seen it and heartily approve.

lautreamont said...

David Ehrenstein,ear blogger,
Maybe I don’t understand very well what’s going on with messages like Antonio’s.
I Can’t see the poetry in it !
Plainly translated into French, it’s… underwear put on the same level as literature or philosophy. Not acceptable.
Understand me ?
I’ve built a whole life upon (?) poetry, sex, idleness, literature and philosophy. Maybe that’s why I’m so ashamed about … illiteracy. And sorry for my written English, not as fluent as I would like it to be…
I hope I didn’t break any rule of politeness when I write my commentaries.
I love so much that blog !!!

antonio said...

i thought dolce & gabbana made spring and summer collections too! who said they only just made underwear!

sitting at the dining room table, i was approached by my boyfriend, he gave me a copy of a thousand plateaus
it immediately registered on my mind as a catalogue of dolce & gabbana clothing, i exclaimed why did you hand me a catalogue of dolce & gabbana clothing?
he said no, this isn't dolce & gabbana, this is deleuze & guattari, and this is a thousand plateaus, it's considered one of the most important philosophical texts of the latter 20th century.
to which i exclaimed no, this is a catalogue of dolce & gabbana clothing, notice the masochistic tailoring, the total 80s-ness of it all, where am i going with this? i forgot, isn't that the point, though?
he said no, this is deleuze & guattari, not dolce & gabbana, don't you even know what marxism is? i would explain this to you, but then i would be accused of obscurantism, i should be accused of it anyways, simply for using the phrase
i said i really like the fact that i can't afford this stuff, and i really like the fact that it's all designed with black latex and leopard skins, it's simultaneously glamorous and disgusting, i suggest it be labeled "glamazon"
at that moment my boyfriend grew wings and flew out of the window. my body started to decay rapidly, and within an hour I was nothing but a pile of ashes on the floor, and within another hour, i was a diamond.
and now i am writing this from beyond the grave, and now i am writing this from a black hole.
and now i am channeling dennis, and some other dudes i forgot.

shammalamma ding dong

antonio said...

lautremont, what is the market for french antiques like in paris? are the dolls cheaper there than in other parts of the world? i always presumed that antique jumeau's would be much easier to find in france than in america, and much less expensive. pleassse inform me.

Chris said...

Oh hey but Lautreamont, hi & everything -- i'm pretty new here myself but this i know for sure: you'd better believe Antonio's one of the smartest cookies in this big beautiful jar here; and if you ever come round this part of town you'll see the laundromat's right next to the 24-hour rhizomat so, you know, it's an easy mistake to make.

Rakete bee bee, dawg. x

antonio said...

chris, are you trying to seduce me? do you listen to Thee Majesty? can i pretend that you're the boyfriend of mine who grew wings and flew away to a land of clouds with genesis p. orridge in them?

antonio said...

HEY DAVID EHRENSTEIN!!!!!!!! does E! ever tell you exactly when you're going to be on!!
because sometimes when i'm walking around my house i hear your voice and then i run to my television and it's like you were JUST THERE or something!!!
give me David Ehrenstein timeslots so i can now when to strategically place my lazy ass in front of the television to catch a glimpse of you

WHERE IS ROBERT NYC!? we need to compare child-notes
my child was attacked by a dog, not really, but almost
his parents took him home and came back alone. i suppose they dropped him off at the edge of a highway somewhere.

lautreamont said...

Antonio,
I've ben living abroad (in Egypt) form more than twelve years, but as far as I know, french antiques are much more expensive in Frace than in Italy, Greece, Turkey etc.

antonio said...

really!? well damn. i was hoping that france would have been like some sort of bastion of inexpensive rare antiques.
i have these friends who go to france every summer and come back LOADED with antiques and they always tell me WE GOT SUCH A GOOD DEAL!!! WE GOT THIS FROM A HOMELESS LADY! WE GOT THIS FROM A DEAD MAN'S SON! all sorts of amazing crazy ancien regime antiques for NOTHING. but now i know! they're LIARS!! LIARS I SAY!!

David Ehrenstein said...

Good grief, Antonio! Is "E" STILL running those shows? I did The "E" True Hollywood Story on Anthony Perkins, Rock Hudson and a couple of others I can't recall at the moment EONS ago! I also did Carrie Fisher's The Homes That Made Hollywood for "House and garden Television" a few years back -- though Carrie wasn't present at any of the shoots where I was filmed (alas -- we have friends in common though we've never actually met.)

Antonio is most definitely of the poetic persuasion M. Ducasse. I'm sure much is lost in the translation but his writings here skirt the edges of Irving Rosenthal and Joe Brainard -- with a dash of James McCourt. (I'm certain Dennis agrees.)

Our job here at DC's is to mold Antonio into a force so fearsome as to make Sam Tanenhaus faint dead away on sight.

I'm listening to Rufus Wainwright sing "Cigarettes and Chocolate Milk" right now, and it also occurs to me a brief but exceptionally intense affair with Antonio would do the both of them a world of good.

antonio said...

DAVID YOU SWINE!!! how dare you attempt to seduce me with your rosenthal and mccourt!!

JOB WELL DONE.
i am yours.
you just can't touch my cock

also i must be paid $300 per week.
i simply MUST afford my antiques SOMEHOW

THIS CHILD SITUATION AT MY HOUSE HAS TURNED INTO THE WORST POSSIBLE SITUATION IN WHICH THE MOTHER IS SO DRUNK THAT SHE SIMPLY MUST SPEND THE NIGHT HERE WITH HER CHILD

my life is ruined tonight in SO many ways i can't even begin to fathom how i should understand this NON situation.

antonio said...

DAVID YES THEY ARE!!!! atleast the anthony perkins one! i've seen you in that one NUMEROUS times. it seems E! NEVER gets tired of anthony!

Doug_Wasted said...

Arcade Fire was very, very, very ... cancelled. Fucker's voice was all shot, they cancelled the remainder of their European tour, I think nine dates total. Of course, they did so three hours before they were supposed to go onstage in Oslo.

I'm a big "shoot-the-messenger". I ripped into this poor guy who let me know. And then I kicked stuff around all alone in my apartment and swore and cursed the world. I must have looked like an idiot.

And idiot as I was, I decided to make an evening of it. I had drinks at this ... god damn super fucking hot chick's place (don't tell my girlfriend), and had a swell time before we hit the town. But we where kinda late getting there, and we found out that tonight is daylight saving time in Norway (and probably elsewhere too :-). Meaning that at 2 am it's really _3 am_ and , whoops, the bars close.

So this potentially of-the-ages great night out is the major bummer of the decade. The only possibly good thing to come out of this is, I'm doing a journalism course, and we're supposed to write an editorial on monday. I was kinda stumped, but now I know mine will have to be about how daylight saving time's stupid and how it at least be moved to, like, 6 am, so that it doesn't eat into people's drinking time and you don't have a bunch of ultra frustrated people getting into fights and setting fire to bums while angrily stomping home cos the last bus just left.

rigby101 said...

antonio how is your Period film going? have you seen this
photobucket mashup
i'm using it to make a collage for a noise artist friend.. but when i saw it i thought of your website

i do the same thing with D&G but the opposite way.. oh and 'antiques' are sooo cheap in france.. half the price of england .. so the french markets are full of parasitic inglese strapped down with spooky dolls and light fixtures

dennis how is your russian.. would you consider it a difficult language to learn?

antonio said...

rigby- my PERIOD film started out as the PERIOD FILM
and then it descended into an S&M movie
and then it descended into a stop motion animation film
in which it is still in.
really just the parts that take place in the black cabin are stop motion
because i couldnt find a house that was REALLY BLACK all on the inside
and also the parts where people see eachother in mystic mirrors are stop motion as well.
it's all black and white and the lense is HYPER vaselined, it makes guy maddin look like leni riefenstahl

when editing time comes around it's going to work in THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY
dennis might hate it SO MUCH
it's going to be completel incomprehensible
my script is the book
word for word
action for action
in the most blatant way
absolutely NO rewriting whatsoever.
i start with the road leading to some ambiguoud town
the notes
EVERYTHING

it's gonna be great
DONT WORRY it will have the SHIT youtubed out of it in a couple months

ALSO: ANTIQUES::

OHMYGOD SERIOUSLY!?!?!!? you seriously raise my hopes up for future parisian shopping sprees!!
i'm gonna load up at the markets!!!
i want bags and bags of tiny shoes, bluette outfits, little bru smiley dolls
all sorts of shit! AN ENTIRE HOUSEHOLD IN 1" SCALE!

antonio said...

doug- sorry about the concert.
i LOVE the new album so much though
theyre supposed to be playing in atlanta soon
but i dont want to go.
lets never attend another concert ever again!!

antonio said...

RIGBY- THIS PHOTOBUCKET MASHUP THING LOOKS FANTASTIQUE..
i'm going to rape it right now i think.

AlistairMc said...

Hey Dennis, I'm back from LA after NYC--my timing made me miss both LA and NYC Userlands readings unfortunately. In a space of sort of post trip melancholia. I really adore nyc. whats yr take on it? Saw the most incredible show at the guggenheim of spanish art--the goyas and zurburans were just sublime. I love the Roussel stuff-he was quite the fox no?-- will investigate it further, and the guro imagesjust blow my mind. Hope you are good, Alistairxo

rigby101 said...

antonio - can't wait to see your film.. sounds fantastic.. my hallway is painted matt black*.. i pretend it's a feng shui thing (absense of colour to shed off the outside world pfft!) but really i like to flick on the spotlight pointed at the doorway and freak out my 'victims'

apparently jarobe painted her hallway black with a nailpaint brush when she was freaking out over something (probably leaving gira or whatever).. she did it in little crosses and it took her days.. probably a bullshit story but a great image

* i'm about to paint it the shade of yellow from Last Tango in Paris but getting the colour precise is soooo fucking difficult

rigby101 said...

"is it safe" will now become
"i can't believe it's not butter"

antonio said...

haha last tango in paris yellow is GENIUS!

i totally believe the jarboe story, she was one of the first people ever to add my music project as a friend on myspace. i was SO excited.
cause' you know jarboe aint got no secretary to add that shit for her! although it's totally insane to imagine jarboe cruising around myspace or something.. with like twigs and dead roses all over her or something.

David Ehrenstein said...

Bertolucci stole those shades of yellow from Francis Bacon (whose paintings appear in the opening credits and whose mise en scene is evoked throughout the film.)

David Ehrenstein said...

Whose child is annoying you, Antonio?

What's the set-up?

antonio said...

ohmygod ehrenstein! you are SO right! i never realized that. it's an almost sickly yellow that bacon ALWAYS uses!! so strange

David Ehrenstein said...

As you can see there are some children we really like

David Ehrenstein said...

And some children we like even MORE!

antonio said...

ehrenstein, my mom decided to bring all her friends over here and throw a cookout or something
and so she brings her friend who has this little kid
and this kid is like i dunno? 4 or 3 or 5 or something? he can run and walk but he can't really talk alot.
he looks a little older.
anyway this kid is like motherfucking running my house right now
and my mind has been raped
luckily i'm on alot of hydrocodeine right now
anyway this kid's mom is totally TRASH and she got SO drunk, she ran off to some bar and left this kid with my mom so now we're stuck tonight with this kid.
it cried so hard it fell asleep thankgod.
i was about to rip it's head off.

really im not angry at the kid. (although i HATE the kid)
im just angry at his white trashiest mom, like jerry springer lady with tits hanging oout of her ROLL TIDE wifebeater. and like a cigarette hanging out of the side of her belipsticked scragly face.
and i'm like standing there totally awkward in my own house, trying to eat a hotdog through drugs and it's like 90 degrees outside.

anyway today was sucky sorta.
but not really because i keep escaping to here.

antonio said...

haha! tj is totally sorta cuteish.
i cant help but think that gus is totally cheating on him with his doppelganger elias.
gus reads this!

GUS YOU KNOW YOU BE ALL UP ELIAS' SHIZZNIT!

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Bernard Welt said...

So--Isn't Roussel also kinda Baron Corvo-ish? Is there a big biographical dictionary of weird dandy geniuses?
Funnily enough, I just showed a class Greta "Big Ones" Scacchi's performance as Lady Macbeth in the Channel 4 TV production--she's pretty good. My students had problems with the idea of a sexy Lady Macbeth. What the hell am I going to do with these kids? After they saw scenes of Piper Laurie playing Lady Macbeth, they said, "Wow. That was exactly the same performance she gave as Carrie's mom." And they're right.

winter rates said...

antonio/rigby - ...when i first got e-mail like 10 years ago someone sent an e-mail with like all these rock stars addresses in the "to" form like nick cave and thurston moore etc. etc.... so of course i mass mailed them some bullshit i wrote on acid just to see what would happen...maybe they'd think i was a genius...the only response i got was from jarboe...she said she loved my writing! hooray!

David Ehrenstein said...

Well that's cause Rosie (Piper's real name) knows what she's doing. She is SUCH a neat person, Bernard. Long career with so many aspects to it. Don't miss her performance in the original TV version of Days of Wine and Roses directed by John Frankenheimer. It's available on video.

That poor kid sounds royally fucked up already, Antonio. Just 4 years old and his life's a 10-car pile-up on the I-Five.

Did you see Paris Je t'aime already, Antonio? Cause Elias stars in Gus' sequence!

Don't shed any tears for T.J. He's off an running with new boyfriends even as I post.

antonio said...

haha winter! i LOVE me some jarboe yes! keepin an eye out for the youngins!

ehrenstein/bernard! PIPER IS GOD!!! she will always be mrs. white though! haha but isn't that so sexy and fantastic!
crazy moms fur immer!

no i havent seen paris je taime! but it's on the agenda!

antonio said...

it's totally late and im totally bored

winter rates said...

re: yr real doll...

fuck her once and have nightmares forever!

antonio said...

haha its not MY real doll!

but arent real dolls SO insane!?!?
what the fuck is that crazy subculture!!? im reading all the forums right now. it's so crazy. theres a really gross real GUY real doll.
although he does have a giant dildo cock. which is attractive in itself. i dont understand how they could market this gay real doll, you know? like.. i dunno about any of your guys.. but all the gay dudes i know just go and GET sex if they need it? is this real doll thing just a straight thing?

antonio said...

i mean like.. if i wanted sex i would just GET IT and not buy a doll or something. i think there's too much inbuilt morale between guys and girls, and maybe straight people just CANT find sex like gay people can, or else there's an element of trashiness to it or something? like i can go on manhunt and find some perfectly normal nice dude, who's totally interesting and cool and not trashy and gross and we can fuck. but i imagine that if i were straight that could be harder. because there are so many concepts attached to attaining easy sex if youre straight or something? am i delving into a hidden world here or what? THIS IS WHAT REAL DOLL HAS DONE TO ME TONIGHT ITS MADE ME GO INSANE!!!?!?

anyways, am i right? am i onto something ehere? are there straight sex-sites like manhunt or men4sexnow, where you have the biggest variety of scary-ultranormal people just there to hook up? is there more of a stigma for straight people to attain sex in that fashion?
i mean, whenever i discuss this stuff with my friend emily, she's just SO shocked that i've used the internet to find easy sex. she thinks it's the SLUTTIEST thing she's ever heard! but i mean, i'm not hooking up with you know! GIANT ORGIES where NOONE is tested or something.. i mean. i'm selective. right? it just so happens that i want to have sex and there are these ultra easy websites that allow me to be selective? is this a gay thing or what? so yeah, gay REAL DOLLS could NEVER work because there's this weird difference between how queers and straights get sex?

antonio said...

like this
real doll video for the MALE real doll.
isn't it totally awkward that they're faux-marketing it towards women or something? i mean? it's awkward because, whereas the men who acquire the female REAL DOLLS, recquire that their real doll-faux-ladies be silent and still. the actions that these ladies are taking with the male real doll are actions which recquire that the male somehow react. and he DOESNT because he's a DOLL. like they slap him with a leather paddle and he just sits there and they give him blow jobs but he doesn't react. what does that mean about the development of female sexuality or something? that whatever a woman does a man should somehow react towards it, which spells disaster for the marketing of the male real doll or something? and it's soo not even intended for women, it's obviously secretly being marketed towards gays, notice it's gaping open mouth with a tongue that protrudes, but could never be like a dildo for a woman, it's obviously to give gay men blowjobs, right? well it doesn't work because gay guys would just hook up online to get a blowjob from someone? this is a totally weird mind speil you have sent me on winter rates. i think i gotta give it up for the time being and go back to reading these real doll forums.. INSANE!!!

antonio said...

weird DOLL album galleries

winter rates said...

I haven't looked at that site in years... i remember the FAQ being AWESOME....

Question: Does the silicone flesh have a foul odor?

No. REALDOLL's silicone flesh is very nearly odorless. You can detect a very mild odor: a pleasant and fruit-like fragrance.

Question: Does the silicone flesh have a foul flavor?

No. REALDOLL's flesh has no noticeable flavor.

Question: What if I don't fit with RealDoll's sex parts?

REALDOLL's vaginal and anal cavities are made snug to accommodate any insertion. The silicone flesh is soft, slippery, and very elastic. Any petroleum or water-based lubricants can be applied to ease entry. REALDOLL's oral cavity contains soft silicone tongue and teeth. The oral cavity is as snug as the doll's other entries. All of REALDOLL's cavities allow deep insertions.

Question: Tell me more about the doll's entries

The inside of the Vaginal and Anal entries use a different grade of silicone than the rest of REALDOLL's body; These areas are extremely soft and feel very life-like, down to the subtle texture. REALDOLL's vaginal lips can be stretched apart very realistically. REALDOLL's Oral entry has a very soft and stretchy lips, ultra soft tongue, soft silicone teeth, and a hinged jaw that opens and closes very realistically.

Question: Tell me more about RealDoll's "suction effect"

When penetrated, a vacuum is formed inside REALDOLL's entries which provides a powerful suction effect. This effect is strongest in REALDOLL's oral entry. Some of REALDOLL's users have reported intense orgasms due to this specific feature.

winter rates said...

antonio...

i got the internet the same year i got married so i never got to test the theory on how easy it would be to get some action....craigslist is sure boomin' tho....

but yeah, serious doubts about the quantity of attractive females soliciting free anonymous sex....hence... THE DOLL!

that video is great...it's like in porn when chicks blow each other's strap ons...like i'm so fucking sure...

winter rates said...

dude that first pic... of YOUR doll, she looks all sweaty...

you know there are dudes who beat off to these real doll galleries...now that is a mind trip!

antonio said...

haha!!!! winter rates youre making me go crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

antonio said...

it's TIME FO THE SLEEP!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dennis:

is it appropriate to say shut up here?

michael_karo said...

i wonder how many wannabe necrophiliacs buy real dolls? don't they cost like thousands of dollars? and wow, after you cum in the mouth, pussy, ass...YOU GOTS TA CLEAN IT OUT!!!
grody to the max, fer shure!

craiglist here, at least m4m is full of sluts. but, who knows how often those ads really work. i read them everyday, but i would never go meet a stranger for sex.

dennis, re: my lil' buddy...you're a peach!

p.s i'm like totally in love with john waters right now. love his dvd commentaries. and his new one man show dvd was wonderful!

antonio, have you seen the cockettes movie? there's one guy in that...he's like, ummm...a 60 year old twink, it's amazing!

can't wait to see more pics of userlanders!

JW Veldhoen said...

Dear Y'all,

Will you take my picture?

JW Veldhoen said...

P.S. At the 'Fantasy Factory' on Davie St. there is a giant Hustler brand doll. Dude behind the counter and I got to talking. He said they only sold one, ever. The thing was covered in dust and looked sort of lonely, but hell, a thousand bucks?! I mean I could never fuck it, but I could just, you know, talk to it. Probably has the same amount of personality you find in most people. Maybe send it to art-school, play pranks with it like casting it off of bridges or buildings, leaving behind lachrymose audio notes on Myspace. Or take it back to Calgary, and sit it up in the back pew of my parent's church.

I brought in a book to stock and sell a few years ago called "The Nutshell Studies." I like the idea of using these sex-dolls in a life-size ramshackle Victorian mansion for similar pastiches, only staged in medeas res, with lonely plastic-humpers getting caught vividly and manically dismembering, then taken to the hospital for eating huge indigestible hunks of synthetic boy or girl--fat, asthmatic, sweaty, and mortified, waiting in a Hospital ER.

Antonio, you should do it!

From Amazon:

"Bizarre and utterly fascinating, The Nutshell Studies of Unexplained Death is a dark and disturbing photographic journey through criminal cases and the mind of Frances Glessner Lee--grandmother, dollhouse-maker, and master criminal investigator. Photographer Corinne May Botz stumbled across the "Nutshell Studies" while making a video about women who collect dollhouses. On the suggestion of a collector, she visited the Baltmore Medical Examiner's Office, where Lee's miniature reconstructions of crime scenes were on display. The macabre dioramas fascinated and repulsed her: "I was entranced by the details: the porcelain doll with a broken arm in the attic, the grains of sugar on the kitchen floor...I was also riveted by the miniature corpses. Shot in bed, collapsed in the bathtub, hung in the attic and stabbed in the closet; all were eternally frozen in miniature rooms that had become their tombs."

A remarkable woman, Frances Glessner Lee established the Department of Legal Medicine at Harvard in 1936. At the time, innumerable murders went undetected because evidence was mishandled, or ignored. To train investigators of sudden and violent deaths to better assess visual evidence, Lee created the Nutshell Studies--dollhouses that students could study from every angle, with minute crime scenes details taken from actual cases. Lee created 18 dioramas, using only the most mysterious cases (cases that could have been ruled as accidents, murders, or suicides) to train detectives and challenge their ability to read evidence.

Botz reveals as much about the nature of obsession as she does about Frances Glessener Lee--each model is painstakingly photographed from multiple vantage points, allowing the reader to witness the astounding level of realism and precision in each case, as well as giving the reader unobstructed access to each eerie setting. All 18 studies include a brief synopsis of each case, as well as a key to each grisly floor plan. Perfect for amateur sleuths, aspiring medical examiners, and fans of CSI, The Nutshell Studies of Unexplained Death is grim and oh so bewitching."

http://www.amazon.com/Nutshell-Studies-Unexplained-Death/dp/1580931456

JW Veldhoen said...

And I got a weird myspace invite tonight from someone name Emily to be my 'friend'. I think that sweaty cross-eyed bitch you posted fucking learned how to type Antonio!

Jax said...

Hi Lautreamonte,

Thanks for the Cavafay stuff, he’s fairly well known on this blog already, I think, beautiful poems.

If I may ask a question myself, what’s the publishing scene like in Egypt, right now, both for domestic consumption and further afield? I’m thinking novels: who’s stepping in Mahfouz’s shoes, these days, and what are ordinary Egyptians reading?

I know that, between WWI and II there was a vibrant underground ‘small press’ scene in Cairo, but if I remember correctly it was mainly pamphlets and magazines, with a little fiction. I should say now any knowledge I have of any of this has been gleaned from the pages of the ‘Cairo Trilogy’. Man, I loved that!

I envy you with your wandering round oases, but it’s the deserts and the cities that do it for me. I’ve visited Cairo three times and long to go back. Yeah, I probably do romanticise the place, but there’s just something about Cairo – do you know what I mean? Alexandria’s much more ‘French’, more Mediterranean in feel. I note you like Luxor: have you spent any time in Aswan, can I ask? I’d love to go there.

Can I also ask a more personal question? Whereabouts do you live in Cairo? And do you know what’s happening with the city’s ‘gay scene’, post ‘The Queen’ boat events?

Take care.

Btw, I can’t seem to find ‘Horror Hospital’ on YouTube, Dennis, so please do post a permanent link, eh?

Thomas Moronic said...

Chris - Your "I contemplated Molko/McKellen for about four seconds and now I want that bit of my brain carbolically scrubbed" comment made me chuckle. I agree, not really my cup of tea. I met the chap from Placebo once though (about 7 years ago) and he was actually very friendly though. Wouldn't want to see him humping though.

Antonio - I listened to your songs again - I love them. That's great that you get to see Acid Mothers Temple, my friend tells me they're awesome live.

ATHEIST!!! - It was sooooo good to meet you properly today, really good to have a proper sit down and chat - your conversations were fun - it got my brain working overtime. We have to meet up again soon!

Dennis - I learnt how to do Bold html today, can you tell? Obviously I'd been aware of slash fiction but I'd never read any of it before. None of it turned me on, but there was such an endearing youthfull energy/frustration about it, if you see what I mean. And it kinda reminded me about the first stories I wrote when I was young, fantasy stuff about some of the boys in my class, I must have been about 10 or 11, I'll have to search it out one of the days. Can you remember what the first things you wrote were?

richard eichmann said...

This is probably going to sound incredibly self-indulgent/self-important, but I met someone last night!
He's young, very cute, a dancer, he has the most amazing arse I've ever seen.. We're meeting up again later for a coffee and maybe see a film or something.
I hope I'm not jinxing it because its still early I know, but I haven't been in a relationship for a long time. I've just got such a nice feeling right now I had to share it with all you smashing people.

Have to go shower and change now, hope you have a great rest of the weekend everyone!

richard eichmann said...

Oh and one other thing - bought my local Borders' one and only copy of 'Userlands' yesterday. So far just read one story but they all look stunning from a mere glance. Will let you know what I properly think once I've finished it.

Chris said...

O good Lord, Saturday nights around here are fucking carnage. Y'all are exhausting. It's v v v v cool. O and now I miss the six months when it was cute to write 'kewl'.

Antonio!!! Of course I'm trying to seduce you; and now I'm going to try and pretend that my awesomely voluptuous hooters *jiggle jiggle* are the result of some Genesis-style experiments in pandrogyny, up here on cloud 8, and not, after all, the consequence of eating Too Many Oreos [TM]. Won't you join me on my cloud? I know you have earthly admirers but I... just between us... I begin to suspect Mr Ehrenstein may have a little bit of a roving eye... Call it pandrogynous intuition.

Thomas M -- hello! Ahhh, fantastic, I finally made somebody chuckle around here. *does solo conga* *is irrecuperably mortified* ...I completely adore Brian M (and most people who meet him seem to warm to him). Are you too young to remember an old cable tv channel called The Box, where you could call in and get videos played? Whatever year 'Nancy Boy' came out, maybe '96, I used to sit up most of every night with a crate of alcopops and repeatedly dial for Placebo and Hanson alternately. (And in moments of extreme weakness, Kavana.) Actually maybe The Box is still going, I don't have a tv these days. And you can't get Woody's alcopops either. Stupid lousy passage of time. -- Anyway all I really wanted to say is, your blog is stunning. More! MORE!!

O Atheist we love you longtime. IDST. Keep on keepin on. xx

Doug_Wasted said...

Antonio: a stop motion animated film of Period? My heart goes out to you

lautreamont said...

Jax,
This is Lautreamont ;
You may find it very weird, but I’m not “gay”, I have never taken seriously the attitude of belonging to this community : I’m just interested in ephebophilia : young persons; Egyptian male and teenagers nowadays. After the “Qeen Boat” events and repression of gays in Egypt, the so-called “Gay Scene” totally disappeared. And I went on meeting boys from Alexandria to Siwah, and from oases to Aswan. The traditional Egyptian society dates back to thirty five centuries before Christ… The Arabic and Muslim traditions don’t interfere very much with these homoerotic ways of being before marriage. Boys live with boys, sometimes, men – when they can expect any sort of social or – more important – symbolic enhancement in doing so…
(excuse me for my very approximate English, please!)
If you want to know a bit more about cities, yes, Alexandria is perfect for French lovers. I met many boys on the Corniche, at night, and we made love into cabins with the rhythm of the waves on the beach. But Cairo is the most incredible place. The population is kind of seventeen million inhabitants – fifty per cent aged fifteen to twenty-five. I often meet young persons in Arabian bathes, brothels, or, simply, in coffee shops or streets.
Here is my e-mail address – if you ever wish to get some more …

David Ehrenstein said...

I'd say it was more of a Crawling Eye.


The Cockettes movie is absolutely essential. There are SO many things in it of pivotal importance to us all.

lautreamont said...

Jax,
I forgot : here is my e-mail :
eric_cairo@yahoo.com

David Ehrenstein said...

Here's why we absolutely MUST have a Joseph Gordon-Levitt day!

David Ehrenstein said...

Joe's website It's got movies, including one he made based on a poem by Jacques Prevert.

Considering his franocophilia I think it's only a matter of time before he's posting in here.

So everybody be nice.

SYpHA_69 said...

JW, you have a MySpace page? Is there a link to that, I'd like to add you as a friend (if you don't mind).

adjoun said...

lautreamont,

on your blogger page it still says je suis gay

no offence. I'm more of the ephebophilia variety myself.

I had a experience with a boy in horrible hurghada which was weird. some touching up behind the counter of a shop. he said he was a student from alexandria. he studied english literature.

"i study shakespeare," he said.

hmmm.

Bernard Welt said...

Wow. Love J G-L's "PIctures of Assholes" movie. It's going on reserve for one of my clases today. That's one of the best short movies made by someone who's already famous I've ever seen. He gives really good performances, but that's often not any indication of being a really interesting person. I'm officially a fan.

Here's a little tidbit for paranoids or whatever that disorder is that finds interconnections everywhere: In Prague last week I spent a long time gazing at the tomb of Rabbi Ludah Loew (the Golem rabbi), which is surmounted by two opposing spirals. I happened to note the same motif's on top of the church that houses the Infant of Prague statue a couple of miles away, and I made a note to look into this unaccustomed 17th-century ecumenism. After I got home, I had to comment on a conference proposal I received on labyrinth symbolism in dreams, and I had to write something on a movie related to dreaming, so I dug up my notes on Hitchcock's "Spellbound," in which, I'd forgotten, I focussed on the character Dr. Edwardes' book, "The Labyrinth of the Guilt Complex." I also had to go through several books on psychoanalytic criticism for reserve readings, and I opened Otto Rank's "Art and the Artist" to the chapter on labyrinth symbolism (in which the labyrinths are all spiral-shaped). Then I go to the article Ehrenstein (I like Antonio's form of address for him; it makes him sound like a mob lawyer on The Sopranos) put up on J Gordon-Levitt and it turns out he's obsessed with snails. So my question is: Am I insane yet?
But why the fuck am I asking you? I've never met a group of people more poorly equipped to diagnose serious psychological disorder. Y'all wouldn't recognize mental derangement if it sneaked up from behind you and butt-fucked you in broad daylight. Sniff, blush . . . I'm proud to know you.
Speaking of which - Color Me Kubrick, which comes out on DVD in the US this week, isn't as bad as it looked at first. The incredibly stereotyped gay characters are actually kind of funny, except when they fall totally flat, and then they're utterly appalling. You can see why Malkovich did it. You may know it's a fictionalized version of the story of Alan Conway, who impersonated Stanley Kubrick as a means of bilking people and getting rent boys to do him for free--and who fooled Frank Rich of the New York Times, who then wrote an article about him. The movie plays some games with casting I haven't quite figured out--one of the main roles is played by Jim Davidson, who was actually taken in by the real Alan Conway. The writer and director were assistants of Kubrick's, so it's all some kind of odd homage to him, and at times has a little bit of the energy of Kubrick's "Lolita." What's really quite odd, though, is that in a scene in which Conway's institutionalized and communicates his mania to other patients who start insisting they're also Kubrick, one of them is played by none other than Ken Russell (who once famously complained that Kubrick stole his locations for Barry Lyndon).
My favorite Malkovich performance: Tom Ripley in "Ripley's Game."

David Ehrenstein said...

"Y'all wouldn't recognize mental derangement if it sneaked up from behind you and butt-fucked you in broad daylight. "

Like that hasn't happened every other weekend! (Well, DUH!)

Malkovich's best work is for Manoel de Oliviera -- the world's oldest living and working film director (check his age on the IMDB -- you'll faint)

He was also a brilliant Charlus in Ruiz's Le Temps Retrouve and a great John Malkovich in Being John Malkovich

mv said...

** Mv, Cool about April. That constable's quote about the protesters falling into the police's trap was so fucking scary. Shit. **

Hi DC, I'm pretty much free to come over anytime in April so could you email me (marc@marcvallee.co.uk) date(s) that would be good for you guys. I would only need half a day to take pics. Let me know what you think.

Marc

antonio said...

i HAVE seen the cockettes movie
and i think i totally know which dude youre talking about!!
did she had spikey hair and stuff? i cant remember
but he was a 60 year old twink in the most literal sense!!

I WANT TO BE HIBISCUS!!!!!!!!

OR PEPPER LABEIJA (different movie)

JW!=== i was at the nutshell studies opening when they came to NYC!!!
those little photos are SO strange!! ii do love them!!

i think i have an obsesseion with controllable life or something
or things in miniature that i can organize!!
since childhood.
mainly because my mom would take me to the art institute of chicago
and we would go downstairs to look at the THORNE miniature rooms

these TINY little miniature boxed period rooms
and these rooms were just AMAZING totally lit realistically
it was literally like staring in a photo of a period room
except it was a box
i think that was the beginning of my fascination with that shit
so weird!!
but yes!! the nutshell rooms are soo amazing and morbidly genius!!

thomas== thanks so much. i've heard about AMT, i cant wait to see the show!
we have this totally insane psychy noise label in atlanta. and they got the acid mothers temple to come
they're always getting the craziest people to come down here. i wonder who runs the label?
they got wolf eyes a while ago and now amt, and sir richard bishop, and also animal collective soon.
exciting.

lautreamont said...

Yes, dear Adjoun,
I wrote “gay” as the contrary of heterosexual, just in case, and I wanted to make obvious in my blog that I was – what, in English ? ephebophile ? Does the word exist like in French ?
As you might have noticed, I never completed my blog and never began to make it exist. And I was drunk when I created it… I just don’t have time for the moment, too busy with my many idle occupations…
Horrible Hurghada, how right you are. I haven’t been there for twelve years now – and I won’t anymore. Tourism and diving are not my cups of tea, anyway…
But don’t judge after only one experience…
I’ve had more than seven hundred and altogether, it was ninety per cent all right, if not tremendous…

David Ehrenstein said...

"ephebophile"?

You're gay Monsieur Ducasse.

"Ephebophile" is generally a weasel-word pedo-priests use to defend themselves.

We ALL want to be Hibiscus, Antonio. Up to a point. He was the first "name" I heard of to die of AIDS -- and that was fairly early on in the epidemic. He checked into the hospital, was diagnozed with what was thought of as standard pneunomia and phitt! Just like that.

I saw him perform with his "Angels of Light" at the "Theater For the New City" back in the day.

joe mills said...

David E have you seen/heard Barack the Magic Negro - Rush L's response to your LA Times article.

Seems to me you've got a white right wing nutcase defending a black Democratic presidential candidate. Result!

I came across that by Youtube-ing
'Ehrenstein' to get the film prog Antonio mentioned. Youtube also have this bizarre 29 second thing where you are on two TVs (talking about some journo I think). The TVs are outside shielded from the sun by umbrellas and there is an audience sipping drinks. Weird.

Antonio, loved all that (near) blow by blow account of your invasion yesterday. But I'm still worrying about that poor kid abandoned by alky mother crying himself to sleep (just wait till atheist gets on here, you'll get hell). I hope it all turned out OK.

Wonder if anyone's seen 300 (apart from DC who was lukewarm about it).I'm trying to like what I've seen of it (since it's got a bisexual Scotsman in the lead) but one reviewer said it was like Braveheart (which I hated)and 'shouty' (which I hate - Armaggedon all over again) and even the cartoonized six packs look bland. There was a making of thing with Gerard Butler working out and he looked hot there but not so perfect, which is maybe my thing.

Sin City was so great and this looks nothing like it. Funny cos that had a very Male hetero point of view - all those big-assed dominatrixes - and now they've gone for camp and muscles.

David Ehrenstein said...

They've gone for camp and muscles in a story where the villian is an Evil Queen with body piercings all over him.

I know all about the oxycontin junkie's comments. Currently some right-wing black geek has been sending me e-mails abotu putting my on some call-in show in Birmingham Alabama. A really sick character. Passive-agressive to the manner born. And a Phoebe to boot.

That video of people watching me on video was from a tribute to Cathy Seipp, who died of lung cancer (though she was a non-smoker) three days ago. The tribute was a few months back. I didn't go, but they sent a video unit around to film my remakrs -- only a few of which they actually used.

I had a long and complex history with Cathy, who I first met at the old Herald-Examiner. She was a lot of fun back then, but grew more and more right-wing as the years went on. While we were still really friendly (rather than polite) she did a piece for The Advocate exposing the origins of the Richard Gere rumor. It seems this urban legend was first associated with a television weatherman, as a means of attacking his little gay self.

postitbreakup said...

conor oberst and kurt cobain... i can't help but feel like this post was a little bit for me

hey dennis, please
please
please
please
PLEASE write an autobiography?
or could you at least share that interview with yourself thing you mentioned? i'll send you some money for it

please?

David Ehrenstein said...

Actually all of US should write Dennis' autobiography. We could be a collective Getrude Stein to his Alice B. Toklas.

Bernard Welt said...

Ephebeophilia: I think it was Saint-Saens who was famous for declaring, "Je ne suis pas homosexuel! Je suis pederaste!"

Paul Curran said...

Thanks Dennis. Everything's going ok now. My wife just had a cold and couldn't take much because she's pregnant, had to rest and wait. The dog twisted his back, a major problem with miniature dachshunds, and took anti-inflammatories that fixed the injury but nearly knocked out his kidneys. I'd hate something happening to him, especially now my wife's getting a human child. We got married and moved to London from Japan because she wanted to take the dog to see the ducks in Hyde Park. Sounds whimsical compared to your visa nightmares. He's got an EU passport.

The writing's ok too. It always takes me a bit to readjust to a new phase, like a hangover or jet lag. After finishing the notes I take a break but keep wondering what's there. How am I going to make sense of all this scribbling? So that's a bit daunting at first but then when I start on it, restructuring on computer, red-penning and grouping different strands, and realise it is still there, it's a relief and fun.

Looking forward to extended Userlands reports.

David Ehrenstein said...

Poor doggy. I hope he's feeling better.

michael_karo said...

antonio, his name is goldie glitter, he had bleached surfer boy hair....man, hibiscus was like a total all american looking boy in those first pics in the movie, then there he is with glitter in the beard, etc...i really loved the movie.

i guess the only time you see men with beards in dresses would be like the faerie gatherings...thats an interesting sub culture, for sure...i just don't dig all that wiccan stuff, too many rules as far as i can see...kinda like bears! i mean, i love the idea of bears...i could BE a bear with little effort, actually, but, umm, yeah. TOO MANY RULES!

i know this is blashpmemy here...but i don't see how astrology can be anything but complete hooey...i always lie when someone asks me my sign!

but...viva la difference!

good article on j g-l in the sf paper today...ahh, syncronicity!

Thomas Moronic said...

Chris - Thanks so much - cheers! Yeah I remember the box, and I'm guessing (having by then moved on from Johnny Dean of Menswear) I was probably voting for the same back then, I was convinced I was gonna marry the boy from Hanson for a while, sigh.

Antonio - Sounds cool, there are so many cool little cassette/CD-R labels at the moment, and I think Wolf Eyes have had a big hand in inspiring people to do stuff like that. They're great live too, I saw them in December and it was like have fire thrown in my face, they were great.

Thomas Moronic said...

Oh - and both your blogs are great by the way. There are so many talented/interesting people on here.

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insidetheroar said...
Dennis:

i have maid my mind up.

it won't change.

March 25, 2007 2:53:00 PM PDT

antonio said...

haah why would you want it to?

rigby101 said...

Doug_Wasted - can you post another link to your horror hosiptal myspace.. or have you youtubed it yet.. some reason i can't get that link from the other day to work (it's a bit long.. maybe use the 'karo instruction')

speaking of which MK what are the bear rules? only getting off with other bears? fights over hot spurting porridge?

davidE - i remember the bacon paintings and used his yellow as my initial reference but there are shades in the film due to positioning/lighting that almost look ALIVE.. that's what i want.. anyway maybe i should just go with bacon yellow and stop pissing about

i think dennis will have a heartattack when he sees the posting number.. i hope he doesn't have a busy morning planned..

Matt said...

Dennis_ I fuckin love today's. I'm soooo glad I actually got on. Seeing that Gerard Way was posted as one of the slash's just totally brightened my day dude! Thanks! LOL. As everyone should know... he is my idollllllll. Ah, and I swear to god that one day I will meet this man and totally make him gay for it. It's just a known fact that it will happen. I mean, I know the kid can't resist my experienced mouth.

michael_karo said...

oh, i just mean it's another example of something starting out interesting and turning into something more...orthodox i guess. i was reading thses articles recently about how the big bear dating site was excluding people who didn't meet their criteria...which is their right, i guess, but...sheesh, some daddy bears like little twinks, and vice versa. i don't like ghettoization.

oh, i dunno...too many catagories, too many rules, dress codes, etc. i used to think i had a "type", mainly younger guys, but as i get older i find my tastes are much broader...

michael_karo said...

oh, and btw, tomorrow marks 5 years of sobriety for yours truly...check my blog :)

David Ehrenstein said...

"too many catagories, too many rules, dress codes, etc. i used to think i had a "type", mainly younger guys, but as i get older i find my tastes are much broader... "

SING OUT LOUISE!

rigby101 said...

the finale to skins was excellent.. the major cast ended up singing some MOR crap song while SHIT HAPPENED

and the producers are looking for input in the next series.. get in there!

rigby101 said...

oh and joeM/jax have you seen The Black Donnellys? if you haven't.. i think you'll like it.. modern day irish americans fighting the italian mob.. episode 2 had the main man strip down to his undies to throw a victim into the river.. very very buff.. T upto 4 so far

math t said...

finally i made a new drawing,
Can't Get You Out of My Head

for the pink parts i used Staples-brand highlighter, looks very dayglo on paper, came out mad pale on the scan

xox, math+

5StringsA_ said...

Dennis' books are an excellent metaphor for "ephebophilia". Jerking-off 16 yr olds. "Thoughtful repose." "Cultural borrowing." Ephebophilia, that's a good one. Coral fucking reef. Sweet young thangs. The Wild Boys, Georgie Boy, The Burroughs Blur boys, plastic cunt, it's the good life.

SYpHA_69 said...

Yeah, I'm not all that crazy about the word ephebophilia... probably because I always forget how to spell it (and don't even know how to pronounce it!)

I guess if one is into boys that still makes you gay, in a manner of speaking. I don't know if I like the term boy lover though... maybe boy admirer? H'mm.

JW Veldhoen said...

My try to avoid from the other day still had an e, made/consist is the edit. "A Void" and translation and I think comes from Richard Hofstadter and is really interesting. I'd love to see a Queneau day. I cite "We Always Treat Women to Well" in my book, and "Witch Grass" is pretty obvious... Too late to trade Queneau for Gysin though...

antonio said...

the word 'ephebophilia' is beautiful. it reminds me of the gymnopedie.

math!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i inexplicably LOVE kylie SO fucking much
"FEVER" is one of the most bedazzling albums ever created
it's the glossiest, dripping in GLOSS. prismastic diamond chandelier supernova iridescent album ever created!!!!
yessss!!!

im going to go listen to it right now infact!

David Ehrenstein said...

Hey jw, do you have Queneau's Exercise deStyle ?

Zazie dnas le metro is a fave of mine and the movie version
(a collaboration between Louis Malle and William Klein) is super.

vomitingghosts said...

Dennis, hi. Hi everyone. Great comments this weekend. Yowza. Night.

Killer Luka said...

JESUS enough comments? WELL have another, just for the buttocks. A shot in barrel!

yeah, i never finished my drawing for the book cover thing goddamit...I am a lazy fuck, but i'll finish it one day and show you. It was the Metamorphosis.

the dolls...
yeah i dunno....I am now in the "second guessing" phase like i dunno if I should have gotten this grant and all art sucks and everything is bullshit type thing.
I have to rearrange this entire basement where I live inorder to start working, move my tiny tortoise into my bedroom. lotta work. hurts my life.

I thought of some new doll archetypes that I wanted..run em by you for shits.
originally I had planned to make an anorexic doll using a skeleton. After research in finding just how hyper-religious anorexics are, I am making their patron saint Ana, but her form will be based on the Palermo Crypt mummies, her mummified skin paper mache..nailed to wall with anlters screwed into her shoulder blades.
Another is a modern Elizabeth the I. I cannot describe the depths to which my obsession with Eliza sink and rise violently. love that virgin bitch.
I have been reading about how to make tudor gowns, but for my Eliza, instead of pearls and rubies, i am using electrical equipment, nuts and bolts, neon lighting with a wig made out of coiled red wire.
the last Pyg archetype is a terribly sick lass, with a dress based on a nuclear reactor core, more specifically The Cherenkhov Effect which I have been FUCKING obsessed with forever and made many "blue" paintings about nuclear power, R.A.D.s, roentgen people etc. So she will be a 3d version of a blue glowing woman, hair in white wisps falling out of her head with a bodice made out of blue oil paint mimicking radioactive blue sludge, creeping about her skin, turning her veins blue and her fiberglass skin into bubbles.
someone get me a particle mask!

haha i dunno.

live it up
me

jack said...

i think this is the most insane comments ever.

antonio said...

hey killer luka!! anorexia is SO religious!!!
have you read about st. winifried who used to eat twigs and her own scabs!?!?
and also the victorian 'fasting girls'there's a really good book about them called "the history of self starvation"
EXCELLENT!! and also "holy anorexia" is great too!! i think st. lima was an anorexic!! or a "faster"
why was anorexia so spiritual? and then it became so plastic and boring. all about body image and stuff. WHATEVERR body image! I AINT EVEN CARE!! if im going to be anorexic it's going to be some l'morte d'arthur bullshit with like the mystic scent of cinnamon and a floating grail or something..

Doug_Wasted said...

Rigby_101: It's on YouTube now. Just do a search for Horror Hospital Unplugged

lautreamont said...

David Ehrenstein.
I’m not Monsieur Ducasse, but Lautreamont : try and make a difference between my pseudonym and Isidore Ducasse, (Isidore Lucien Ducasse (April 4, 1846 – November 24, 1870), the real person and, to me, the greatest French poet of his century, and maybe of the next one too…
You wrote “actually this is the place to talk about poetry”. So, why annoying us with this very uninteresting topic about me being gay at any price, when I try an make some sort of distinctions between gay, ephebophilia, etc ? Is the word all straight vs gay, heterosexual vs homosexual for you ? Black and white, bipolar – How boring !!! How wrong ! Don’t you know that anarchy is the law of desire ?
So let me be an ephebophile and stop bothering everybody with my very insignificant self – in regard of poetry.
Here is some “good dish” as you say, an excellent one in fact, and this is for Dennis Cooper, his Work, and his readers :
"God grant that the reader, emboldened and having become at present as fierce as what he is reading, find, without loss of bearings, his way, his wild and treacherous passage through the desolate swamps of these sombre, poison-soaked pages; for, unless he should bring to his reading a rigorous logic and a sustained mental effort at least as strong as his distrust, the lethal fumes of this book shall dissolve his soul as water does sugar." Lautreamont, “Les chants de Maldoror”(1,1).

Atheist said...

162 comments! jesus!! well, here's to 166 ...
p.s. god i've been hormonal this weekend! majorly, majorly hormonal. being a woman SUCKS. well, it sometimes sucks. seriously, guys, you just have no idea!
p.p.s. i have to say, though, THOMAS MORONIC!!! god it was so great to meet you!!!!!

Atheist said...

p.p.p.s. sypha, you've been feeling really down? you ok?
p.p.p.p.s. richardE - ooh!! tell us more!!

adjoun said...

lautreamont

700 ephebes!????

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Jax said...

Thanks for that, doug_wasted - really enjoyed your film! The kid who played Daniel is very hot

lautreamont said...

Adjoun,

I've been living n Egypt for more than ten years, and, yes, things happen this way : you drink a coffee or a tea in a big coffee-shop down-town Cairo, and within an hour, there is at least one boy (all his shy friends listening very carefully…) who asks you : "Are you a foreigner ? Where from ? France ! “Ahssan Nass” (the nicest people…) Are you married ? No ? Do you like Egypt ? What do you think about Egyptians ?" – I reply : "I love Egyptians, I have many Egyptian friends" etc.
If you happen to know the language and the social codes, everything is extremely easy.
It might seem quite strange, but being a foreigner, not too old, speaking the language and having a very good sense of Egyptian humour leads to delicious meetings. Sex is not taboo. You can walk in the streets with, in your hand, the hand of your friend. People just think : "How wonderful it is to have a good friend"... If you never happen to make any allusion about homosexuality, the boy will feel confident : there is nothing more tragic than being homosexual in the traditional Egyptian society. But sex is “fun” and boys very often fall in love with their best friends (Sehb el-laziz). Step by step I have met very nice guys, and then friends of these guys, and then cousins of the friends, relatives of the friends of the cousins etc. Yes, seven hundred ephebes.

David Ehrenstein said...

700 ephebes beats 300 Spartans any day.

"If you never happen to make any allusion about homosexuality, the boy will feel confident : there is nothing more tragic than being homosexual in the traditional Egyptian society. But sex is “fun” and boys very often fall in love with their best friends (Sehb el-laziz)."

Hey, I've seen Yousself Chahine movies, dear. Egypt's weirdness aout "homosexual" reminds me of one of my all-time fave lines, from Crag Lucas' The Dying Gaul "You can do anything you want to as long as you don't give it a name.